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At a press conference
held aboard

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the yacht Bosphorus
on 8 June, 2007,

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Adnan Oktar, Honorary President
of
Science Research Foundation,

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answered questions
from members of the

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Turkish, Azeri, American
and European press.

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He made important
statements about

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such issues as "laicism,"

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"the global impact of
the Atlas of Creation,"

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"the end of Darwinism,"
"the solution to terrorism,"

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"the Golden Age,"
"world peace,"

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"democracy" and
"freedom of ideas,"

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all of great public interest.

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I'd like to welcome our
guests one more time.

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Thank you all very much.

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It's an honor and
pleasure to have you here.

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Then let's proceed

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and I can answer
your questions.

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Yes, please.

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We've been talking
about the elections.

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You mentioned that as long
as the ideas you refer to

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are presented in
a peaceful manner

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in Turkey, any definition
could be acceptable.

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Many countries refer
to Turkey as

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a moderate
Islamic country.

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This definition is
disturbing for some people.

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But as far as I
understand, you have

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no objection to
this designation.

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In the Turkish
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it is called
"moderate Islam".

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Beyond the fact
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of Turkey's population
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has adapted democracy,
is moderate Islam
on the rise

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because Turkey itself
perhaps in line with
the rise of AKP?

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There are no segments
of Islam, moderate
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There are
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there is one
single Islam.

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What matters is that those
who interpret the religion
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loving,  compassionate and
wise, cultured and refined.

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An ignorant person's
interpretation of Islam

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may well be dangerous.

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But his interpretation
of any religion
could be dangerous

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- an ignorant Jew,
ignorant Christian,
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may all be dangerous.

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But the interpretation
of the Qur'an

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by a Muslim filled
with love, who is
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forgiving, and who
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would be exceedingly
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because the Qur'an
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based on compassion,
love and kindness.

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Therefore, one should
seek the problem

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in the people who
interpret it rather than

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seeking something wrong

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in the religion,
or the Qur'an.

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In the political sense,

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what does designation
"moderate Islam" mean

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for the future of Turkey?

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We'd better not get
stuck on manmade labels.

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They are not important.

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Islam, Christianity
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love for human beings,
compassion,

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beauty, and esthetics.

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I find it inappropriate
to divide Islam

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into several artificial
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Everyone knows that if
Islam is exercised rationally

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and sincerely, a delightful
environment will come about.

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But when in the hands
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which is in fact a fully
correct description,

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the practices are
absolutely terrifying.

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But it would be a grave
mistake to consider
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They merely express
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of that individual's soul,

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not the expression of the
Qur'an  or of religion.

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We looked through
your Atlas of Creation.

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What was your goal
in publishing it?

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There is really
no evolution.

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If there were, even I
would be defending it

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and be telling
people about it.

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It would be compatible
with the Qur'an,

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and with both Old and New
Testaments as well.

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But it really doesn't exist.

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In any living cell,
-let it be in the sea,

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in an orange, or in a leaf

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-millions of pieces of
information are encoded.

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It is impossible
to claim that

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information that would
fill a entire library

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could be placed inside
a cell by chance.

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We looked at fossils

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-not one or two,
thousands of them-

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and did not come
across a single

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piece of evidence
in favor of evolution.

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None of these organisms
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All are the same
as they are today.

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Seeing this, how are
we supposed to
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I keep my
answers short

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to let you ask
more questions,

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but could give more
details if you like.

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I am Professor
Cemal Anadol,

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an academician
and a titular professor

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at three universities
in Azerbaijan.

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I report from Turkey
for Despiridikoba,

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the official new organ of
Azerbaijan's Presidency.

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I saw you the other
day on TV

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You cleared
yourself perfectly

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of all the
negative ideas some people

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have put forward against you.

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Thank you very much.

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It's an honor to
congratulate you.

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Not only as a Turk, but
also for all of humanity,

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you are an asset of
whom we're very proud.

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Thank you very much.

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Hello, my name is
Kai Strittmatter,

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German journalist for
Süddeutscher Zeitung.

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I want to follow
up on my

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colleague's question
about Atlas of Creation.

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It has been published in
many European languages,

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as I understand.

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It was sent to many
schools, teachers,

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opinion leaders in France.

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My first question is how
do you finance this?

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This is not a cheap book,

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it looks like a very
expensive book.

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My second question
is that I've seen it

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published in German.

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Do you plan a similar
campaign in Germany?

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Will you send it out
to many institutions

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in Germany as well?

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Of course, we'd like to
see it published

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in all the world's
languages, as finances permit.

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How do you finance it?

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The publishing house
underwrites it.

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They could provide you
with detailed information.

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about it if you
contact them.

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I'm not involved
in such matters.

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I get no royalty payments
for my books.

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At least eight
million copies

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have been sold
to date.

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Have you sold that many,
or printed that many?

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This is the number of the copies
the publishing house has sold.

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Sold or published?

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Can you give some information
about the 12th May conference

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with the Creationists in America,

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and your relationship with the
American Creationist movement?

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As a matter of fact, I
have no ties with America

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or Saudi Arabia, or any other place.

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They don't know me,
and I don't know them.

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It is a false assumption.

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I'd like to meet them, but
really don't know them personally.

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Besides, I don't need such things.

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And why would America, Saudi
Arabia, or some other country

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pick me to publish
this book in Turkey?

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Isn't there anyone else
in the whole world who
can do this other than me?

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Why choose me to
publish this book?

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Instead of such
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it's better to focus on
more rational matters.

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Some Turkish media reported that

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your book was shipped to
some schools in Antalya.

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France made
shocking news of that.

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Antalya's Director of
Education made a statement

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asking biology teachers who had
received the book to return it.

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What is all this about?

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I don't find it
appropriate to fear a book.

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No one in any part of the
world should fear any book.

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Let people read the
books of atheists,

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Marxists and freemasons as well.

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The age of burning
or banning books

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should come to
an immediate end.

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This is medieval thinking,
very disturbing and worrisome.

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My books are already
available on the Internet,

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so by banning, obviously
one can gain nothing.

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If they worry that high-school
teachers will read it,

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then they need to take
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and also block the Internet.

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You graduated from Mimar Sinan
University, Design Department.

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But now you have
250 books published,

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and are leading a
very big organization.

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Could you please tell us
how you got here,
since beginning your search?

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I studied Interior Decoration,
but did not graduate.

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First of all, I'm not
leading any organization.

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I'm only the honorary president
of Science Research Foundation

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and Foundation on the
Preservation of National Values.

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That's it. I have no company
holdings or any such thing.

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I studied at middle and
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In 1979, I entered Findikli
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department of Interior Decoration.
In the entrance exam, I came third.

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That surprised me of
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People knew that I was devout.

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Back then, the university
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Mimar Sinan University?

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Several leftist fellows
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that my life was in danger and
told me not to come to the school.

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They said, "You are religious,
things may happen to you."

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But it was not so
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because only what God
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Comfortable in my belief that

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nothing happens apart from that
destiny, I went to the school.

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Shall I give more details?

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I could if you'd like.

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Back then at the Academy,

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the Marxists were really democratic.

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They didn't interfere much

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with my conversations about
religion with my friends.

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But after a while, I started
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Then Marxists restrained me; saying,

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"You're no longer allowed to
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They used a threatening style,
but I kept talking to my friends.

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Hilmi Yavuz, the philosopher
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who used to advocate
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was my teacher then.

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After a lecture, I handed him a book

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criticizing the theory of evolution.

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Weeks later, I heard
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Now, years later,

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Hilmi Yavuz has gone
through a serious change.

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His attitude towards
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He is against Darwinism
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This is very important.

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I'm mentioning these details that

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people don't know about such details

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to give a spice up the conversation.

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Let's hear from anyone who
hasn't asked any questions yet.

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That would be more democratic.

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Yes, please?

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As far as I know, you don't
have a higher educational
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So how can you refer to
your theory as scientific?

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No academic education is
needed to understand life.

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In order to understand that
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one does not need education.

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Let us bring thousands of
fossils here to display,

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and also bring children
from middle school.

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If we show them that the fossils
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are no different from their
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will these children need to
undergo an academic education?

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It is obvious that
they have not changed.

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Darwinists have deceived humanity.

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They've said that in order
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one absolutely needs
to do academic research.

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They said, "Darwinism is a very
complicated phenomenon that
the public can never understand.

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Only a few professors can understand
it, but you cannot even come close.

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For this reason, Darwinism is right."

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This is a great distortion.

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Darwinism is very easy
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the evidence is very clear that there
is no Darwinism, and no evolution.

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I assume that after
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there's no one who hasn't been
impressed with the invalidity
of the theory of evolution.

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This is the reason of all that panic.

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The fact is, this is not the
first book about creation.

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Many books have been
published so far.

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But this book has ruined
Darwinism in a powerful way,

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which is why it has made
such an effect.

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Besides, the invalidity
of Darwinism

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the fact that everything
is created by God

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is very good news.

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One should be happy about it,

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and not concerned.

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For anyone who believes that

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he will cease to
exist with death,

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learning that he will not die

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but live for all
eternity in the Hereafter

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this is good news,

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not something that
will irritate people

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The Great Creator's
control over everything

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is a blessing for humanity,

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something that gives happiness.

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Why should chaos be pleasing?

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No chaos exists.

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God's creation is
very good and secure,

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a comfort for people.

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Let's proceed with
other questions.

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The name Adnan Hodja suggests

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a person surrounded
by wealthy children.

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Why is that so?

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I explained this
a few times before.

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In the academy, I was generally

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surrounded by
distinguished people.

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The poor are
my brothers and friends,

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and when I say "distinguished,"

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I mean that these people

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were coming from
high-quality high schools.

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Rich people are
generally acquainted

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with rich people,

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as is the case
with a chain reaction.

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That is, it was not
a special preference.

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I have many friends
who are poor,

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who lack adequate
material resources

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and many other features.

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This claim is based
only on estimations.

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It has no basis.

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What is your opinion

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about the remains of creatures

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in-between apes
and human beings?

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Such intermediate beings
do not exist

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This is of utmost importance.

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In my books,

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I displayed hundreds
of skull fossils,

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most of them dating back

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70 to 80 million years.

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No change has ever occurred

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in any of these animals' skulls.

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Yet no one knows why

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-according to Darwinists-

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there has been a change

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only in the skulls
of human beings!

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These are not
the remains of an ape,

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or of a human being.

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So what are they?

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What do you of the remains

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that have been discovered
in various regions

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such as Atapuerca?

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All species of apes normally

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resemble human beings.

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When we look at fossils,

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we do not come across

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such transitional examples.

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The majority of them

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are extinct species of apes,

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or orangutans or gibbons.

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And I give very detailed

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information in my books.

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For instance,
the "Piltdown Man" fossil

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was a forgery.

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This also holds true
for other examples.

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Giving detailed
technical information

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about them would
take too long,

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but you can find
detailed information

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in my book.

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Where will the collapse of

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the theory of
evolution take us?

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We will look at life

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from a realistic point of view.

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We will be rational.

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This will be our reward:
not being deceived.

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The notion that

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"Scientists know everything;

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you should remain silent;

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do not think or research
on your own;

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whatever scientists
tell you is true,"

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will no longer prevail.

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Consequently, we will
have a more rational,

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logical outlook on life.

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Asim Günes from Hurriyet.

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You have give us a brief
background of yours,

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beginning from your years

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at the Mimar Sinan.

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How did this concept of an

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"Adnan Hodja sect" emerge?

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How do you explain this?

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Of course our group
is no sect.

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I am an author,

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and I am surrounded
with friends

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brothers who have
sympathy for me.

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This is very obviously

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not the structure of a sect.

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I am the Honorary
President of BAV
[Science Research Foundation]

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and the Foundation on the

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Preservation of National Values.

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That is, what is intended to be

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introduced is not something real.

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At one time, Rusen Cakir

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wrote an article
in Nokta magazine

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in which he coined
the name Adnan Hodja.

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And this name was
widely adopted.

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00:39:18,815 --> 00:39:19,815
Again, it was Rusen Çakir

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00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:22,816
who put forth the
claim of "hypnosis,"

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which was also adopted.

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At the time, society
found it very interesting

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and considered it plausible.

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But by the Will of God,

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era of unquestioning
belief

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will come to an end.

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This is something to
which I attach importance.

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Every idea should be
questioned absolutely

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and be subjected
to examination.

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Why do you lay
special stress on

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Charles Darwin and the
theory of evolution?

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Is Creation versus evolution

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the most important
basic problem

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00:41:20,829 --> 00:41:22,829
you encounter
in the world today?

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Communism, fascism
and freemasonry

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00:41:42,832 --> 00:41:44,832
are all based on Darwinism.

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These are the greatest forces

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00:41:47,834 --> 00:41:49,834
that affect the world today.

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00:41:51,835 --> 00:41:52,835
Brutal capitalism also

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00:41:53,836 --> 00:41:54,836
has its roots in Darwinism.

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With the collapse of Darwinism,

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people will re-interpret

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the world and have
a new look at events.

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00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,840
They will no longer be

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00:42:05,841 --> 00:42:06,841
conditioned to believe in

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00:42:07,841 --> 00:42:09,841
communism, fascism
and freemasonry

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00:42:10,842 --> 00:42:12,842
and will look at events more

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00:42:13,843 --> 00:42:15,843
objectively and rationally.

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Hitler, Lenin, Mao, Stalin;

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00:42:54,847 --> 00:42:56,847
they were all Darwinists.

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00:43:04,848 --> 00:43:06,848
What is so wrong

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00:43:07,849 --> 00:43:09,849
about freemasonry?

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00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:12,849
Do you think they have
an evil nature?

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00:43:21,850 --> 00:43:23,850
I look at events very rationally,

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00:43:24,851 --> 00:43:26,851
with no preconceived notions.

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00:43:27,852 --> 00:43:29,852
My outlook does not
exclude them.

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00:43:30,853 --> 00:43:31,853
First of all freemasons are

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00:43:32,854 --> 00:43:33,854
the sons of this country,

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00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:35,855
very distinguished people.

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00:43:37,856 --> 00:43:39,856
However,
the freemason philosophy

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00:43:40,857 --> 00:43:41,857
has a Darwinist basis.

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00:43:42,858 --> 00:43:44,858
For this reason,
their philosophy

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00:43:45,859 --> 00:43:47,859
does not accept any religion.

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00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:49,860
They swear on
three holy books.

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00:43:50,861 --> 00:43:52,861
One has to
openly declare

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00:43:53,862 --> 00:43:54,862
the religion he accepts.

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00:43:55,863 --> 00:43:56,863
He should be honest.

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00:43:57,863 --> 00:43:58,863
I invite them to practice

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00:43:59,864 --> 00:44:00,864
that same honesty.

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00:44:01,865 --> 00:44:03,865
One can not swear on the

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00:44:04,866 --> 00:44:06,866
the Qur'an and the New
Testament at the same time.

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00:44:07,867 --> 00:44:08,867
He needs to openly proclaim

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00:44:09,868 --> 00:44:10,868
which idea he actually accepts.

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00:44:11,869 --> 00:44:13,869
I cannot believe in
the sincerity of anyone

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00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:15,870
who swears on the Qur'an

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00:44:16,871 --> 00:44:18,871
although he is
against the Qur'an.

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00:44:19,872 --> 00:44:20,872
One has the right not

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00:44:21,873 --> 00:44:22,873
to believe in the Qur'an,

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00:44:23,874 --> 00:44:24,874
and I always respect that person

423
00:44:25,875 --> 00:44:26,875
and have no problem with him

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00:44:27,876 --> 00:44:28,876
in terms of human relations.

425
00:44:29,877 --> 00:44:31,877
Here, for instance, you
have different views,

426
00:44:32,879 --> 00:44:33,879
beliefs and religions.

427
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,880
But I feel love and
respect for you all,

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00:44:37,881 --> 00:44:38,881
and am happy to be with you.

429
00:44:39,882 --> 00:44:41,882
But deceiving people is wicked.

430
00:44:42,883 --> 00:44:43,883
Everyone should proclaim
his views sincerely.

431
00:44:44,886 --> 00:44:46,886
I believe that freemasons
commit a deception.

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00:44:47,887 --> 00:44:48,887
That is why I pay
special attention

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00:44:49,888 --> 00:44:51,888
to this subject and
decipher their methods.

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00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:08,889
In some of his articles,
Edip Yuksel,

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00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:10,890
an author living in America,

436
00:46:11,891 --> 00:46:13,891
expresses very unfavorable
views about you.

437
00:46:14,892 --> 00:46:15,892
We frequently come across

438
00:46:16,893 --> 00:46:17,893
such views on the Internet.

439
00:46:18,894 --> 00:46:19,894
He claims that years ago,

440
00:46:20,895 --> 00:46:21,895
he parted company with you

441
00:46:22,896 --> 00:46:24,896
after disagreeing with
you on some subjects.

442
00:46:25,897 --> 00:46:27,897
Is this true?

443
00:46:28,898 --> 00:46:30,898
Did you have views in
common

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00:46:31,899 --> 00:46:33,898
with Edip Yuksel?

445
00:46:36,899 --> 00:46:37,899
I had contacts with him,

446
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:40,900
but of course our
views were different.

447
00:46:41,901 --> 00:46:42,901
But in those years

448
00:46:43,902 --> 00:46:45,902
he was really beneficial,
had good ideas

449
00:46:46,904 --> 00:46:48,904
-views from which
one could benefit-

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00:46:49,905 --> 00:46:51,905
and was able to
produce good works.

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00:46:52,906 --> 00:46:54,906
But then he entirely
abandoned such efforts.

452
00:46:55,907 --> 00:46:57,907
Now, in America,
he has no such works.

453
00:46:58,908 --> 00:47:00,908
I do not approve
of all the views

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00:47:01,909 --> 00:47:02,940
his books express in,

455
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:04,910
but there were some good,

456
00:47:06,911 --> 00:47:07,911
favorable and beneficial ones.

457
00:47:08,912 --> 00:47:09,912
Yet all ideas are free,

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00:47:10,913 --> 00:47:12,913
and I respect everyone.

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00:48:27,914 --> 00:48:29,914
To get back to politics,

460
00:48:30,915 --> 00:48:32,915
you mentioned you refrain

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00:48:33,916 --> 00:48:35,916
from dealing with this subject.

462
00:48:36,917 --> 00:48:38,917
But there's a rumour
that inside AKP,

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00:48:39,918 --> 00:48:41,918
the more religious
segment has left the party

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00:48:42,919 --> 00:48:44,919
and the less religious part

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00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,920
is being considered to lead.

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00:48:48,921 --> 00:48:50,921
What are your
opinions about it?

467
00:49:16,922 --> 00:49:18,922
Of course it is useful
for the government

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00:49:19,923 --> 00:49:20,923
to be liberal, respectful

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00:49:21,924 --> 00:49:23,924
and open to every idea.

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00:49:24,925 --> 00:49:26,925
For example,
laicism is a principle

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00:49:27,926 --> 00:49:29,926
that should be applied exactly,

472
00:49:30,927 --> 00:49:32,927
to achieve a sense of
balance in society

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00:49:33,928 --> 00:49:35,928
and ease of practicing religion.

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00:49:36,929 --> 00:49:38,929
And each idea
must be respected.

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00:49:40,930 --> 00:49:41,930
For example, government

476
00:49:42,931 --> 00:49:44,931
should ensure that supporters

477
00:49:45,932 --> 00:49:47,932
of both CHP and MHP

478
00:49:48,933 --> 00:49:50,933
atheists, and freemasons

479
00:49:51,934 --> 00:49:53,934
should all live in security.

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00:49:54,935 --> 00:49:56,935
All individuals have the freedom

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00:49:57,936 --> 00:49:59,936
to think the way they wish,

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00:50:03,937 --> 00:50:05,937
and government should
provide this security.

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00:50:50,938 --> 00:50:52,938
My name is Matt Mossmann. 
It's been reported 

484
00:50:53,939 --> 00:50:55,939
to the press that you've been
in contact with

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00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:58,940
the Institute for
Creation Research in the USA

486
00:50:59,941 --> 00:51:01,941
Why would you choose

487
00:51:02,942 --> 00:51:04,942
not to have contacts
with people

488
00:51:05,943 --> 00:51:07,943
around the world who
think the same as you?

489
00:51:28,944 --> 00:51:30,944
I guess there's been a
misunderstanding here.

490
00:51:31,945 --> 00:51:33,945
What I meant was
I decline covert

491
00:51:34,946 --> 00:51:35,946
political or financial support.

492
00:51:36,947 --> 00:51:38,947
Of course we collect
data and information

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00:51:39,948 --> 00:51:41,948
from the Institute
for Creation Research,

494
00:51:42,949 --> 00:51:44,949
but also from
France, Germany,

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00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:46,950
from everywhere.

496
00:51:48,951 --> 00:51:50,951
We use information
of any scientist

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00:51:51,952 --> 00:51:53,952
who does research in this field.

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00:51:55,953 --> 00:51:57,953
There is no boundries
in scientific research.

499
00:51:58,954 --> 00:52:01,954
Of course we have
connections in that sense.

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00:52:33,955 --> 00:52:34,955
Almost every day,

501
00:52:35,956 --> 00:52:37,956
there are attacks by
terrorist organizations

502
00:52:38,957 --> 00:52:40,957
like PKK and by
suicide bombers.

503
00:52:41,958 --> 00:52:43,958
Also there are reports
in the press

504
00:52:44,959 --> 00:52:46,959
that Turkey might send
troops to northern Iraq

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00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,960
What are your
comments about this?

506
00:52:52,961 --> 00:52:53,961
I did not want to mention

507
00:52:54,962 --> 00:52:56,962
the name of the
terror organization PKK,

508
00:52:57,963 --> 00:52:58,963
but since you asked.

509
00:52:59,964 --> 00:53:01,964
Its foundation is Marxist
- Leninist,

510
00:53:02,965 --> 00:53:04,965
and so it is a terror organization

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00:53:05,966 --> 00:53:07,966
stemming from Darwinism.

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00:53:09,967 --> 00:53:11,967
When Darwinism is pulled out,

513
00:53:12,968 --> 00:53:14,968
this organization
will be no more.

514
00:53:16,969 --> 00:53:18,969
It would lose its power,

515
00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:21,970
its faith and its will for struggle.

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00:53:22,971 --> 00:53:23,971
All such terror organizations

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00:53:24,972 --> 00:53:25,972
struggle for an idea.

518
00:53:26,973 --> 00:53:28,973
When a system's idea is dead,

519
00:53:29,974 --> 00:53:31,974
it becomes incapable
of struggling.

520
00:53:33,975 --> 00:53:35,975
These people can become

521
00:53:36,976 --> 00:53:38,976
moderate and reasonable,

522
00:53:39,977 --> 00:53:41,977
but the irrationality of
Darwinism and materialism

523
00:53:42,978 --> 00:53:44,978
needs to be told
very reasonably.

524
00:55:11,979 --> 00:55:12,979
It is not in my area,

525
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:15,980
but when I saw the photos,

526
00:55:16,981 --> 00:55:18,981
I thought that
the patrols should be

527
00:55:19,982 --> 00:55:21,982
protected by
thick concrete walls

528
00:55:22,983 --> 00:55:24,983
There needs to be
a strong structuring.

529
00:55:27,984 --> 00:55:30,984
All areas must be surveyed

530
00:55:31,985 --> 00:55:33,985
by infrared cameras

531
00:55:34,986 --> 00:55:36,986
for night vision.

532
00:55:38,988 --> 00:55:40,988
Besides, bulletproof vests

533
00:55:41,989 --> 00:55:42,989
must be distributed

534
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:45,990
to all our soldiers.

535
00:55:46,991 --> 00:55:48,991
This must be funded

536
00:55:49,992 --> 00:55:51,992
by the people of this country.

537
00:55:52,993 --> 00:55:54,993
I kindly ask this the press

538
00:55:55,994 --> 00:55:56,994
to initiate this,

539
00:55:57,995 --> 00:55:59,995
to distribute to Turkish soldiers

540
00:56:00,996 --> 00:56:02,996
the necessary strong

541
00:56:03,997 --> 00:56:05,997
bulletproof vests.

542
00:56:08,998 --> 00:56:10,998
Infrared cameras are
also very expensive,

543
00:56:11,999 --> 00:56:13,999
but three or four
square kilometers

544
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000
around the patrols

545
00:56:17,001 --> 00:56:19,001
can be covered
with infrared cameras.

546
00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:21,002
This would be beneficial

547
00:56:22,003 --> 00:56:24,003
for the safety of our soldiers.

548
00:56:25,004 --> 00:56:27,004
Because when Turkish
soldiers are asleep,

549
00:56:28,005 --> 00:56:30,005
treacherous raiders attack

550
00:56:31,006 --> 00:56:32,006
all of a sudden.

551
00:56:33,007 --> 00:56:34,007
It is hard to predict.

552
00:56:35,008 --> 00:56:37,008
But cameras can be important

553
00:56:38,009 --> 00:56:39,009
as an initial protection.

554
00:56:40,010 --> 00:56:41,010
And I think it's important

555
00:56:42,011 --> 00:56:44,011
for troops to be surrounded

556
00:56:45,012 --> 00:56:47,012
by concrete walls
1 to 1.5 meters thick.

557
00:56:51,013 --> 00:56:53,013
These are my first thoughts

558
00:56:54,014 --> 00:56:56,014
initiating from the compassion

559
00:56:57,015 --> 00:56:59,015
against our soldiers.

560
00:57:00,016 --> 00:57:02,016
There are others
who can plan better,

561
00:57:03,017 --> 00:57:05,017
but it would be useful to help

562
00:57:06,018 --> 00:57:08,018
our soldiers financially.

563
00:57:09,019 --> 00:57:10,019
As journalists,

564
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:13,020
we can work out a campaign.

565
00:57:14,021 --> 00:57:17,021
I think that this
would be beneficial

566
00:57:18,022 --> 00:57:21,022
for the life guardiance
of Turkish soldiers.

567
00:57:22,023 --> 00:57:24,023
Especially, this vest issue.

568
00:57:25,024 --> 00:57:27,024
The bulletproof vests.

569
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Recent polls show the rise
of conservatives in Turkey.

570
00:59:02,001 --> 00:59:06,001
They define themselves
mostly as,"I am a Muslim,"

571
00:59:07,002 --> 00:59:14,002
while it used to be, "I am a
citizen of the Turkish Republic."

572
00:59:15,002 --> 00:59:18,002
As you've been in
close contact with youth

573
00:59:19,003 --> 00:59:26,003
since the '90s, do you
feel the same tendency?

574
00:59:27,003 --> 00:59:32,003
If so, what kind of changes
do you see?

575
00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:38,004
Being a Turk and a Muslim
are bound strictly together

576
00:59:39,005 --> 00:59:41,005
When you say "Turk,"
one thinks of "Muslim,"

577
00:59:42,006 --> 00:59:44,006
"Muslim" suggests "Turk."
That's the way it is.

578
00:59:45,007 --> 00:59:47,007
Our nation is generally
good-tempered,

579
00:59:48,008 --> 00:59:51,008
tolerant and hospitable.

580
00:59:52,009 --> 00:59:55,009
But people are scared of any
strict interpretation of religion

581
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:58,010
This is a real hazard for all of us:

582
00:59:59,011 --> 01:00:02,011
In the hands of ignorant people,
religion becomes hazardous.

583
01:00:03,012 --> 01:00:10,012
But in Turkey, a country with
lots of enlightened people,

584
01:00:11,013 --> 01:00:13,013
such a fear is pointless.

585
01:00:14,014 --> 01:00:15,014
Rather than fear,

586
01:00:16,015 --> 01:00:23,015
do you sense youth showing a
higher tendency toward Islam?

587
01:00:24,016 --> 01:00:27,016
Of course. In the'90s,

588
01:00:28,017 --> 01:00:30,017
the percentage of those
who believed in Darwinism

589
01:00:31,018 --> 01:00:35,018
used to be higher, like 50%.

590
01:00:36,019 --> 01:00:42,019
Now that has fallen
to roughly 10%.

591
01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:47,020
Another question about
the general election.

592
01:00:48,021 --> 01:00:52,021
Is there a specific political party

593
01:00:53,022 --> 01:00:57,022
that meets your expectations?

594
01:00:58,023 --> 01:01:00,023
I favor a big coalition
that encompasses

595
01:01:01,024 --> 01:01:03,024
all the rightist parties.

596
01:01:04,025 --> 01:01:06,025
What is your ideal political view?

597
01:01:07,026 --> 01:01:10,026
Rightist. The votes in Turkey
are always 70 percent rightist,

598
01:01:11,027 --> 01:01:13,027
and according to
democratic principles,

599
01:01:14,028 --> 01:01:16,028
the right should be
in power in Turkey.

600
01:01:17,029 --> 01:01:22,029
All the rightist.

601
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:26,030
But of course, the party
in power is also responsible

602
01:01:27,029 --> 01:01:30,029
to provide an environment  where
leftists can live comfortable,

603
01:01:31,030 --> 01:01:34,030
peacefully and be
treated respectfully.

604
01:01:35,031 --> 01:01:39,031
Communists, atheists,
all are included.

605
01:04:06,032 --> 01:04:14,032
I've seen the fossil exhibits
in the Tunel stations,

606
01:04:15,033 --> 01:04:19,033
in Galata, or downstairs
in Karakoy,

607
01:04:20,034 --> 01:04:22,034
and also seen the fossil exhibit in

608
01:04:23,035 --> 01:04:25,035
the gallery belonging to
the Beyoglu Municipality.

609
01:04:26,036 --> 01:04:28,036
Do you think you'll be getting

610
01:04:29,037 --> 01:04:33,037
more official acceptance these days?

611
01:04:49,038 --> 01:04:53,996
A fossil is actually a piece
of stone from underground.

612
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:58,039
Anyone who respects  science
should accept these exhibits,

613
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,040
no matter what view they support.

614
01:05:03,041 --> 01:05:05,041
There is nothing to say to anyone

615
01:05:06,042 --> 01:05:08,042
who is afraid of these
pieces of stone.

616
01:05:27,043 --> 01:05:29,043
Turkey's communist
party should also allow

617
01:05:30,044 --> 01:05:32,044
this in terms of democracy,

618
01:05:33,045 --> 01:05:35,045
it is extremely reasonable.

619
01:05:42,046 --> 01:05:46,046
To suppress ideas,
to be afraid of fossils,

620
01:05:47,047 --> 01:05:51,047
to try to burn books-that
must be over now.

621
01:05:52,048 --> 01:05:54,048
It is dangerous for
every kind of thought

622
01:05:55,049 --> 01:05:57,049
and no one must accept this.

623
01:06:23,050 --> 01:06:27,050
I am sure you've had this
question many times before,

624
01:06:28,051 --> 01:06:32,051
but so far, different aspects of
Creationism have been associated

625
01:06:33,052 --> 01:06:34,052
with Christian countries
like the United States.

626
01:06:35,053 --> 01:06:38,053
Do you feel that your
movement would effect

627
01:06:39,054 --> 01:06:41,054
the Islamic world as well?

628
01:07:07,055 --> 01:07:15,055
My works are beneficial for
Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

629
01:07:16,056 --> 01:07:21,056
Belief in Creationism
has positive effect

630
01:07:22,057 --> 01:07:26,057
on all the monotheist religions.

631
01:07:45,058 --> 01:07:53,058
Do you feel like it is
gaining a wider

632
01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:59,059
audience in the Muslim world?

633
01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:09,060
Of course.

634
01:08:12,061 --> 01:08:19,061
I'm Nazar Basli,
from Azerbaijan press.

635
01:08:20,062 --> 01:08:24,062
I've been living in Turkey
since 1992, now in Istanbul.

636
01:08:25,063 --> 01:08:34,063
There was a question about the
rich people around Adnan Oktar.

637
01:08:35,064 --> 01:08:37,064
I saw this richness in 1993.

638
01:08:38,065 --> 01:08:39,065
This was not financial wealth;

639
01:08:40,066 --> 01:08:45,066
I witnessed the richness of
their hearts, their minds.

640
01:08:46,067 --> 01:08:48,067
I come from a Muslim
country, Azerbaijan,

641
01:08:49,068 --> 01:08:57,068
but I learnt to do my
daily prayer (namaz) here.

642
01:08:58,069 --> 01:09:01,069
These "rich" people taught me that.

643
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:05,070
They played a big role in
my understanding of religion,

644
01:09:05,071 --> 01:09:10,071
in my growing as a new person.

645
01:09:11,072 --> 01:09:16,072
And of course there is nothing
for me to say but to thank them.

646
01:09:17,073 --> 01:09:20,073
As a scientist and as
a writer of eight books,

647
01:09:21,074 --> 01:09:25,074
when I look at the books
of Adnan Oktar,

648
01:09:26,075 --> 01:09:30,075
I wonder which books are
absent in my bookshelf.

649
01:09:31,076 --> 01:09:40,076
So far, the questions here
were focused on Turks and Islam.

650
01:09:41,077 --> 01:09:46,077
Thank God I'm a Turk, Muslim
and my religion is Islam.

651
01:09:47,078 --> 01:09:51,078
When we were under the
influence of Russia,

652
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:56,079
we were oppressed, but despite
that, we never gave up our religion.

653
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:02,080
In 1995 or 1996, when
I visited my friends,

654
01:10:03,081 --> 01:10:06,081
I was surprised to see Adnan
Oktar's books on their shelves.

655
01:10:07,082 --> 01:10:08,882
My first question was,

656
01:10:09,083 --> 01:10:12,083
"Do you know Adnan Oktar?
From where?"

657
01:10:13,084 --> 01:10:18,084
They all were scientists
and I got this answer:

658
01:10:19,085 --> 01:10:23,085
"We have learnt a lot of things from
them which we didn't know before."

659
01:10:24,086 --> 01:10:27,086
So far here we have mentioned
communism, capitalism, socialism

660
01:10:28,087 --> 01:10:30,087
-- and yes, we were subjected
to the wrong education.

661
01:10:31,088 --> 01:10:33,088
But now, thank to the
works of Adnan Oktar

662
01:10:34,089 --> 01:10:36,389
and the intellectuals around him,

663
01:10:37,090 --> 01:10:39,090
we can open up our
eyes to reality.

664
01:10:40,091 --> 01:10:42,091
For that, we are very appreciative.

665
01:10:43,092 --> 01:10:45,092
Now, I have a question
for Mr. Adnan Oktar?

666
01:12:24,093 --> 01:12:30,093
Contribution to society is much
more important than education.

667
01:12:31,094 --> 01:12:34,094
Mr. Adnan Oktar is known
not only in Azerbaijan,

668
01:12:35,095 --> 01:12:38,395
but also in Russia, and in
all the Turkic Republics.

669
01:12:39,096 --> 01:12:44,096
The important thing is that he's
known not for his personality, but
for his role as a scientist.

670
01:12:45,097 --> 01:12:47,097
And we are proud of him.

671
01:12:48,098 --> 01:12:53,098
We know you as a scientist,

672
01:12:54,099 --> 01:12:56,099
and we know about your works.

673
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:02,100
Do you see any mistake or
delay in Turkish politics

674
01:13:03,101 --> 01:13:09,101
towards Turkic world and its
foreign and internal policy?

675
01:13:10,102 --> 01:13:12,102
Would you like to be involved
in politics in the future?

676
01:13:13,103 --> 01:13:16,103
I don't want to be engaged in
politics under any circumstances.

677
01:13:17,104 --> 01:13:25,104
I think Turkey should have already
been engaged in Turkic Republics.

678
01:13:26,105 --> 01:13:31,105
Up until now, Turkey
has been in great delay.

679
01:13:32,106 --> 01:13:35,106
In my opinion, whatever
Konya represents is the same
as Azerbaijan,

680
01:13:36,107 --> 01:13:39,107
and whatever Eskisehir represents
is also the same as Turkistan.

681
01:13:40,108 --> 01:13:46,108
These countries should be
together under a single roof,

682
01:13:47,109 --> 01:13:52,109
balance as a compassionate,
merciful, affectionate

683
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:59,110
and intellectual power
to protect world peace.

684
01:14:00,111 --> 01:14:02,111
This is a very important mission

685
01:14:03,112 --> 01:14:05,112
and there should not be
any hesitation.

686
01:15:25,113 --> 01:15:27,113
If Turkey takes responsibility,

687
01:15:28,114 --> 01:15:32,114
there will be peace where
anarchy and terror are now severe.

688
01:15:33,115 --> 01:15:36,115
Turkey's leadership
in that area is vital.

689
01:15:54,113 --> 01:15:57,113
Turkish people have very
humane characteristics

690
01:15:58,114 --> 01:16:00,114
and superior abilities
such as love, compassion,

691
01:16:01,115 --> 01:16:03,115
mercy, hospitability, and humanity.

692
01:16:04,116 --> 01:16:06,116
And with these qualities,
our country will be

693
01:16:07,117 --> 01:16:09,117
a role model for the whole world.

694
01:16:10,118 --> 01:16:12,118
There is certainly
good in such a country

695
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:15,119
serving as an element of
balance in that region.

696
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,120
Do you think the
Masonic lodges in Turkey

697
01:16:44,121 --> 01:16:46,121
should be closed down?
Why?

698
01:16:47,122 --> 01:16:48,922
I'm against any kind of oppression

699
01:16:49,523 --> 01:16:52,123
or closing down of organizations,
any prevention of ideas.

700
01:16:53,124 --> 01:16:54,824
Of course the lodges
should be open,

701
01:16:55,125 --> 01:16:57,125
and the masons should be free.

702
01:16:58,126 --> 01:17:00,826
But their secrecy
should be eliminated;

703
01:17:01,127 --> 01:17:05,127
there should be grounds for
mutual democratic criticism.

704
01:17:06,128 --> 01:17:09,128
And these people should
be given an opportunity

705
01:17:10,129 --> 01:17:13,129
to think flexibly and
more positive.

706
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,530
Rigidity is unacceptable.

707
01:17:17,531 --> 01:17:22,531
I'm against the idea of
preventing any thoughts

708
01:17:23,532 --> 01:17:26,532
unless they encourage
harm to humanity.

709
01:18:13,533 --> 01:18:16,533
But any kind of action or
structure that harms the country

710
01:18:17,534 --> 01:18:21,534
or the nation should be prevented.

711
01:18:29,535 --> 01:18:31,535
The indispensable rule
in democracy is

712
01:18:32,536 --> 01:18:34,536
giving no harm to
any other person.

713
01:18:48,537 --> 01:18:51,537
Can you give us more
details about your book?

714
01:18:52,538 --> 01:18:54,538
How many countries
was it distributed to?

715
01:18:55,539 --> 01:18:57,539
Into how many languages
is it translated?

716
01:18:58,540 --> 01:19:01,540
How much does it weigh?

717
01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:08,741
I think it is about six
and a half kilograms.

718
01:19:13,742 --> 01:19:16,742
But your other questions must
be  addressed to the publishers.

719
01:19:17,743 --> 01:19:20,743
I really do not have
much detailed information.

720
01:19:27,744 --> 01:19:28,744
I understand you've

721
01:19:29,745 --> 01:19:31,745
written more than 250 books,
Mr. Oktar.

722
01:19:32,146 --> 01:19:35,146
How do you have the time
to write so many books?

723
01:19:36,147 --> 01:19:39,147
My second question is, why
do you think that, as you say,

724
01:19:40,148 --> 01:19:44,148
your ideas are now gaining
interest in the Muslim world?

725
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:09,149
The sales of my books are
very high in Islamic countries.

726
01:20:10,150 --> 01:20:18,150
We receive praise and
admiration from Islamic scholars

727
01:20:19,151 --> 01:20:23,151
we know that through the
high number of the books

728
01:20:24,152 --> 01:20:26,152
downloaded from the website.

729
01:20:27,153 --> 01:20:30,153
How do you find that much time?

730
01:20:31,154 --> 01:20:35,154
First of all, my colleagues
translate scientific books

731
01:20:36,155 --> 01:20:41,155
from English, German, French
and all other languages

732
01:20:42,156 --> 01:20:45,156
and even critique them.

733
01:20:46,157 --> 01:20:48,157
And I collect all the information,

734
01:20:49,158 --> 01:20:51,158
interpret it and
deliver it to the editor.

735
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,159
This way is easier and
more practical.

736
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:56,860
This is how I write so fast

737
01:20:57,161 --> 01:20:59,861
a typical writer makes
his own translations,

738
01:21:00,862 --> 01:21:02,862
does the research himself.

739
01:21:03,863 --> 01:21:07,863
However, do this work
together with my colleagues.

740
01:21:08,164 --> 01:21:09,864
This is how I proceed.

741
01:22:17,865 --> 01:22:20,865
First, I am really grateful to my
friend who introduced you to me.

742
01:22:21,866 --> 01:22:23,866
Thanks to her,
I got to know you.

743
01:22:24,167 --> 01:22:26,867
I was educated in Moscow

744
01:22:27,868 --> 01:22:30,868
and read two of your
translated books.

745
01:22:31,869 --> 01:22:38,869
I was very pleased that
I could obtain them.

746
01:22:39,870 --> 01:22:44,870
Then I thought if I were in Turkey,

747
01:22:45,871 --> 01:22:49,871
I might do more research
and read these books.

748
01:22:50,872 --> 01:22:52,872
Thanks to my friend,

749
01:22:53,873 --> 01:22:56,873
I've been able to see
you here in person.

750
01:22:57,874 --> 01:22:59,874
I wish you health in future

751
01:23:00,875 --> 01:23:05,875
so that you can have success
and produce more works.

752
01:23:06,876 --> 01:23:08,876
I would also like to ask

753
01:23:09,877 --> 01:23:13,877
if you plan any new books
and any new research?

754
01:23:14,878 --> 01:23:18,878
There are the ongoing volumes

755
01:23:19,879 --> 01:23:21,879
of the Encyclopedia
that I've composed.

756
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,180
The fourth volume is
ready for the printer.

757
01:23:26,181 --> 01:23:28,881
The third has already
been published.

758
01:23:29,182 --> 01:23:31,882
At the moment I am
concentrated on working

759
01:23:32,883 --> 01:23:33,883
on the fifth and sixth volumes.

760
01:23:34,884 --> 01:23:36,884
Very good! I wish you
success and health always.

761
01:23:37,885 --> 01:23:39,885
Thank you very much.

762
01:24:22,886 --> 01:24:25,886
Is this Encyclopedia the
same as the Atlas of Creation?

763
01:24:28,887 --> 01:24:30,887
Yes, I am talking about
the Atlas of Creation.

764
01:24:34,888 --> 01:24:46,888
Why has the Foundation decided
to have these press events now?

765
01:24:56,889 --> 01:24:58,889
There are actually many reasons

766
01:24:59,890 --> 01:25:01,890
why we held this
press conference today.

767
01:25:02,891 --> 01:25:04,891
First off, there are
many misunderstandings.

768
01:25:05,291 --> 01:25:08,891
For instance, they insist
that we're sending books
to high school students

769
01:25:09,191 --> 01:25:11,891
But not even a single book was
sent to a high school student.

770
01:25:12,892 --> 01:25:14,892
Second is that we sent
our books to scientists

771
01:25:15,893 --> 01:25:17,893
just to receive their criticisms.

772
01:25:18,894 --> 01:25:23,894
Third, there is a demand
that the books be prohibited.

773
01:25:24,895 --> 01:25:30,895
I think this is a totally
ugly, desperate move.

774
01:25:31,896 --> 01:25:34,896
You fight against an
idea with another idea.

775
01:25:35,897 --> 01:25:38,897
For instance, if you believe
that what is written in
this book is wrong,

776
01:25:39,198 --> 01:25:41,898
then publish a book
explaining why. That's all.

777
01:25:42,899 --> 01:25:45,899
But saying, "This book
should be prohibited,"

778
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:48,900
or, "The author should
be arrested."

779
01:25:49,101 --> 01:25:51,901
in one newspaper
published by PKK,

780
01:25:52,102 --> 01:25:55,902
they actually talk about
burning me in person!

781
01:25:56,103 --> 01:25:58,903
They used the headline
from Hürriyet.

782
01:25:59,104 --> 01:26:01,904
As you know, the other day
Hürriyet printed a banner
headline that read,

783
01:26:02,105 --> 01:26:04,905
"Adnan Hodja is now
burned out,"

784
01:26:05,106 --> 01:26:09,906
and publicized the decision
of the Supreme Court of Appeal

785
01:26:10,907 --> 01:26:13,907
two days before the
decision was unsealed.

786
01:26:14,908 --> 01:26:18,908
What the PKK publication
mentions should be done

787
01:26:19,109 --> 01:26:23,309
is the literal burning
of a human being.

788
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:27,810
And in order to stop this,
we are making statements

789
01:26:28,311 --> 01:26:31,311
about the irrationality
of thoughts about burning
men and books.

790
01:26:32,312 --> 01:26:35,312
We wish to explain
to our close circle

791
01:26:36,313 --> 01:26:38,913
and to society as
a whole that

792
01:26:39,314 --> 01:26:42,314
pressure, violence and
terror are not right

793
01:26:43,315 --> 01:26:45,915
and that everything can be
resolved within the framework

794
01:26:46,116 --> 01:26:49,916
of love and democracy,
brotherhood and peace.

795
01:26:50,317 --> 01:26:53,917
For instance, the dream
of the Darwinists is

796
01:26:54,318 --> 01:26:59,318
is to insist on banning the
book throughout the world.

797
01:27:00,119 --> 01:27:03,919
Instead of this, a group of 10
to 15 evolutionist professors

798
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,920
should come together and
publish a book that says,

799
01:27:07,321 --> 01:27:09,321
"Here is the answer
to your book."

800
01:27:10,322 --> 01:27:12,922
But they cannot give
any answers,

801
01:27:13,323 --> 01:27:16,923
since everything told in this
book is right. How can
they answer back?

802
01:27:17,124 --> 01:27:18,924
They know that it is right.

803
01:27:19,225 --> 01:27:22,925
They only ask for the
book to be prohibited.

804
01:27:23,926 --> 01:27:29,926
Moreover, from many countries
where technical examinations

805
01:27:30,927 --> 01:27:33,927
are done by the
Ministry of Education,

806
01:27:34,928 --> 01:27:38,928
there are reports that the book
is actually very influential

807
01:27:39,928 --> 01:27:42,928
and should be prohibited
for that reason!

808
01:27:43,129 --> 01:27:45,929
This is very unreasonable
and ugly.

809
01:27:46,930 --> 01:27:50,930
Our goal is to reach
these people in some way.

810
01:30:35,931 --> 01:30:37,931
Which countries' ministries?

811
01:30:47,932 --> 01:30:50,932
France. And there is
another country, Belgium, yes.

812
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,000
Even if we try to prohibit
the Sun, how can we?

813
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,000
Right now the Sun is flooding in.

814
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,000
I mean, prohibiting it is
not an issue

815
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,500
But starting a juridical process

816
01:31:24,001 --> 01:31:26,001
But it is possible. That's right

817
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:29,000
it's a very good idea!
Let's start it right away.

818
01:31:36,001 --> 01:31:39,001
Really an excellent idea!

819
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:51,000
Nobody else wants to
ask a question, I guess?

820
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:57,000
If I'm not mistaken, you were
held in prison  in the past.

821
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Yes,twice.

822
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:05,000
Is there a difference
between the Adnan Oktar before

823
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:13,000
and after prison?
Did your ideas change?

824
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,000
It's an honor to have
been imprisoned

825
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,000
because of my ideas.

826
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,000
I entered the jail
with joy and honor,

827
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,000
I left the jail
with joy and honor.

828
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,000
Such events increase
my enthusiasm

829
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,000
and resolution.

830
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,000
They make me
even more beneficial

831
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,000
and bold.

832
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,000
Yes, Please

833
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,000
You mentioned that you're
not intrested in politics.

834
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,000
Can you explain
the reasons why?

835
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,000
I am a scientist, researcher,
writer, not a politician.

836
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,000
If I were a politician, it would
be normal to be interested

837
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,000
but I have no such
decision right now.

838
01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:09,000
I was acquitted of the charge

839
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,000
for which I was
imprisoned in 1986.

840
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,000
I was imprisoned
for one year

841
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,300
and acquitted.

842
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,000
I was adjudicated for
my ideas and acquitted

843
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,000
The last time
I was adjudicated

844
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,000
I was acquitted

845
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,000
of the same
general accusitions.

846
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,000
I was accused for
all kinds of crimes

847
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,000
because of my ideas,
everything one can think of.

848
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:22,000
I was accused
of using cocaine,

849
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,500
but was acquitted.

850
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
I was even given cocaine
while in custody,

851
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,000
and I proved this in court.

852
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,000
Cocaine was found
in my house, but

853
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,000
I proved that
this was planted,

854
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,000
and was acquitted
of this crime also.

855
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,000
Such an event can recur,

856
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,200
due to my thoughts.

857
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,000
Again, I trust in the law.

858
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,000
Again justice will
find its way.

859
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,000
So accordingly,
I won't give up my ideas

860
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,200
as a result of
such pressures.

861
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,000
These are events
encountered by every

862
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,000
individual who
supports an idea.

863
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,000
I find these normal.

864
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,000
Has anyone influenced
your thinking?

865
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,000
Anyone you met
in person

866
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,000
or whose books
you read?

867
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,000
Sure! I've had
information

868
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,000
from many people
in person.

869
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,000
Who was the
most influential?

870
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,000
A lot of people. There
hasn't been one event

871
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,000
that influenced me much.
But books may not

872
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,000
feature all the
information.

873
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,000
sometimes you gain
information from an event,

874
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,000
sometimes from a person.
In that sense, surely did.

875
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:27,000
I guess the
questions are over

876
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,000
Have you had a
book signing session?

877
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Long ago, I had
one for the book

878
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,000
Judaism and Freemasonry

879
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,500
Other than that,
I haven't.

880
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,000
Do you want to
have one?

881
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,000
I can, of course.
Why not?

882
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,000
In summary, I am not
offended by the people

883
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,000
who acted
against me.

884
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,500
I'm also not offended
by those who

885
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,000
will do the same
in the future.

886
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,000
Generally, I'm forgiving
and compassionate.

887
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,500
Some circles of the
press may think I'm

888
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,000
furious with them
or have

889
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,000
negative feelings
about them.

890
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,000
I don't have such
a point of wiev.

891
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,000
They are living out
their destiny

892
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:48,000
as determined by God.

893
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,000
They do nothing outside
their destiny.

894
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,000
That's why I see the good
and the wisdom in all that.

895
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,000
Accordingly, they have no
negative effects on me.

896
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,000
They too can be
at ease about that.

897
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,000
Nothing happens
outside of destiny.

898
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,000
Many scientists in Turkey
say they don't feel

899
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,000
comfortable talking
about evolution.

900
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,000
And they feel
this way because

901
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,000
because you have sued
them so many times

902
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:04,000
for financial judgments.
And that seems to

903
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,000
contradict your views on
compassion and open debate

904
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,000
I wonder what your
thoughts are

905
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,000
on these two
contradictory factors.

906
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,000
Can you give an
example, for me to

907
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000
better understand?

908
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,000
I couldn't cite any
court case numbers

909
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,000
But I spoke with some scientists,
and that's what they told me.

910
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,000
No, there's been
nothing like that.

911
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,000
I openly declared that
I defend open debate.

912
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,000
I especially respect
scientists.

913
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,000
There is no such case,
and no such an event.

914
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,000
This claim is totally
groundless. I would

915
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,000
like to to meet the
people you mentioned;

916
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,000
I invite them
as my guests.

917
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,000
I'm surprised to hear that
they believed such a thing.

918
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,000
This is not possible.

919
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,000
Scientists think freely
and talk freely.

920
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,000
And I profoundly
respect them.

921
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,000
There is something wrong

922
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,000
with the things you
have been told.

923
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,000
Many of the people here
are Darwinists too

924
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,000
But I respect them and
I honor them.

925
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,000
Moreover, I feel
love for them

926
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,000
Something like you mentioned
isn't possible at all.

927
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,000
You said that as
long as you found

928
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,000
sufficient financial
resources,

929
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,000
you would focus on
publishing your works
in other countries.

930
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,000
Do you have any
strategic plan?

931
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,000
Did you prioritize
any countries,

932
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:08,000
or any specific
region?

933
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,000
Of course I would
focus on countries

934
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,000
where Darwinist opinions
are more assimilated,

935
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,000
where they are more ambitious
to inculcate Darwinism.

936
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,000
In a country that has no
interest in Darwinism,
it will be pointless

937
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,000
to propagate
anti-Darwinist ideas.

938
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,000
Of course we will focus
on countries where
Darwinism is

939
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,000
highly defended, where its
philosophy is most powerful.

940
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,000
Can we say
France?

941
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,000
France is like this,
as far as I see

942
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,000
European countries
in general are like this.

943
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,000
But the
Atlas has been

944
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,000
translated into Russian
and Chinese as well

945
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,000
even into Hindi
as far as I recall.

946
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,000
Actually. there is
no difference

947
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,000
among the countries
in this respect

948
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,000
There is no
limited area.

949
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:12,000
Where do you think the
Islamic world and humanity are
headed right now?

950
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:18,000
As far as we can see, there are
always blood and tears
in the Islamic world

951
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,000
--in Chechnya, Cashmere,
Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine.

952
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,000
Where are they headed?
Can you tell us about that?

953
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:29,000
These are the labors
of a beautiful birth

954
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,000
The world is headed to
very bright, beautiful days

955
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,000
that we can call a Golden Age,
so to speak.

956
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,000
We are headed to
a world of peace,

957
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,000
brotherhood, love, democracy,
esthetics, and beauty.

958
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,000
We call it End Times,
a term that is

959
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,000
also known in
Christianity and Judaism.

960
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,000
This is a blessed
and beautiful era.

961
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,000
it has been known that
such warfare,

962
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,000
chaos, pains, and
cruelty would happen.

963
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,000
This is written in
three holy books,

964
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,000
and also revealed
in detail on the

965
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,000
hadith (sayings) of our
Prophet Muhammad.

966
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,000
If God wills, after
10 to 15 years,

967
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,000
you will see happen
all that I have said.

968
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,000
It seems there are
no more questions?

969
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,000
OK, then, I thank
you very much

970
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:00,000
for your attention. It has
been a pleasure to meet you all.

971
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:07,000
I hope we will be able to
organize such meetings again.

972
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,000
Have you ever made a
press conference before?

973
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,000
When was the
last time?

974
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,000
Ten days ago, and several
press conferences

975
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,000
have been held within
these past few months.

976
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,000
OK, then our
meeting is over.

977
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,000
Thank you
very much!