Highlights from Mr. Adnan Oktar's interview on 23 September 2011


A9 TV, 23 September 2011

(A response to the question “If Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) entirely put the world right, then the Day of Reckoning will be put back at least 10,000 years. Why should Almighty Allah desire this?”)

Human beings’ will power is weak. Allah says that human beings are created weak. People will survive through the love of faith of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). Allah will make them His instruments. When they die, human beings will collapse in moral terms. And the world will tend towards irreligion and they will eventually become irreligious.Determined people lead the public. People of deep faith, deep wisdom lead communities. Otherwise, people are generally more disposed to be inward-looking and apathetic. That exists in people’s souls. Allah says that human beings are predisposed to be ignorant and cruel. Allah also says in verses that human beings are ungrateful. That is their nature. When Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) die, they will no longer have a leader, nobody to lead that community, to carry them to the true path, and so there will soon be a moral collapse. He [Bediuzzaman] says there will be secrecy and defeat after Hijri 1506. Up until 1543. Then for two years after 1543 there will be no activity at all. Bediüzzaman deduced this from Surat al-Asr and the al-Fatiha and from the hadiths. From three different sources. “By Allah’s leave, the Day of Reckoning will come in 1545,” he says, insha’Allah. And that of course is from the hadiths, insha’Allah.

The reason for Muslims coming to this state, being so oppressed, is bigotry. Bigotry has made them like this. They have abandoned art, science and reason. It forbids thought. It rejects art. Which means that 1.5 billion Muslims are prisoners and unbelievably oppressed, as everyone knows. Some die of hunger and others are martyred in bombings. Some are martyred through torture, while others are insulted and despised. Muslims are in a wretched state. Most are prisoners. They are fair game for everyone. They go and bomb them, seize their oil, confiscate their belongings and impound their funds overseas. The reason for this is bigotry. Backwardness; there are two kinds of retroactivity. One is when you go back and take what is good from the past, and that is enlightening. Then there is bigotry. A reversion to savageness. Many people have fallen captive to bigotry. I am striving intellectually to eradicate that, to eliminate that mindset. That is the only way we can be successful, insha’Allah.  

We must first prepare the way for the coming of Jesus the Messiah (pbuh). We must eliminate that Christian hatred. We must bring about solidarity between Christians and Muslims. That is essential. It is stressed in the Qur’an. Allah tells us only to debate with them using the most gentle form of words, and to invite them to believe in His Oneness. He tells us to treat them with love, and says we can marry their women. But some people keep talking about butchering them, instead. The bigots take one part of the Qur’an but ignore the other. They take the bit that suits them, but not the bits that don’t. So they try to prepare the groundwork for hatred. Yet Allah tells us in the Qur’an not to hate. He wants us to correct our errors. We must hate their errors, but apart from that, Allah desires no enmity from us. We will all see Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) together. This is a great event of this century, a giant event. People will regard Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) as quite normal, but Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) will astonish them. Because he will be sent back from another dimension by Allah after 2000 years. That is amazing. Of course they will also give Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) his due. But they will say: “America helped. The freemasons helped. The Jews helped. The secret state got involved. He was a very intelligent type. The groundwork was all ready. There was an ideological gap since all ideologies had collapsed. So what was to be done? Of course Islam came to fill it. There was support from Obama in that. Some of them organized support in Turkey. Or they brought this person in.” “That is all there is to it,” they will say. Look, I am writing this here. They will say more or less exactly that. That is what the hypocrites will say. But this is how Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will appear. You will see. They will also not believe in Jesus the Messiah (pbuh), either. You will see; just as described. You will recognize Jesus the Messiah (saas) by his breeding. From the accuracy of his words, his gentleness, his perfect character, his perfect language, the sharpness of his glance and his constant victory. His constant victory over the way of the dajjal [antichrist] will be most striking. He will always be most agreeable. But of course people will have their doubts. “How can Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) or Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) die? Can they die without fulfilling their duties?” That kind of thing is all part of the test. For example, Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) will fall ill from time to time. “Is anything going to happen to him?” they will wonder. Let us say they make an attempt on Hazrat Mahdi’s (pbuh) life (may Allah forbid), “but might anything come of it?” they will say. Their hearts will always be “lukewarm,” as they say. People will always be tested like that. But lofty minds and profound intelligences will always recognize Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). It is impossible for them not to. They will also recognize Jesus the messiah (pbuh). On first sight. Because it is impossible not to recognize Jesus the Messiah (pbuh). Such a thing is quite impossible. How can a prophet not be recognized? They have their own unique, immaculate depth. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is a man of suffering. Jesus the Messiah (pbuh) is a man of suffering. But Hazrat Mahdi’s (pbuh) suffering is harsher. Really hard. That is why he is a guide.

To summarize, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will always espouse peace. His priority will be being friends and establishing binds of friendship with everyone. He will aim to preach to everyone. He will eradicate that devilish thirst for blood. But toward the end. They will always thirst for blood. But Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will always repulse bloodshed and stop it. The more they want to shed blood, the more they try to inflict bloodshed and the way of satan, he will stop them. He will continue with determination, fortitude and patience. Bediüzzaman says he will concentrate on the truths of faith. “He will not enter politics,” he says. He says that Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will not marry. He will not get married according to the hadiths. So that he has plenty of time. “Neither time nor circumstances will permit Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) to write these works in person,” he says. In other words, he is saying that “He will have neither the time nor the conditions to personally write books against Darwinism and materialism.” “Before him, there will exist a ready-made program that a group of people have written for him,” he says. And Bediüzzaman says this is his most significant characteristic. He says that his basic task is the intellectual struggle against Darwinism, materialism, Leninism and Marxism. “This is his most important task,” he says, “his first duty.” “After that will come the law and life.” In other words, he will come to the implementation of Islamic moral values only later. And he will enjoy wide-ranging support from Muslims. And he says that he will perform this great duty with millions of loyal sayyids who have been powerful and determined in all ages. Even if that is not related, it is how it must be, he says, under the law of Allah. “There is no alternative,” he says. And he makes a vow in the name of Allah. “Islamic moral values will prevail in this century,” says Bediüzzaman Said Nursi. “You will see,” he says. That is the direction we are now headed in.

Israel, for example, is rather uneasy. But there is no reason for unease. The Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) who will appear is Mashiach, the King Messiah awaited by them. They have known no ease for the last 3000 years. But with the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) they will be able to live without fear, in peace and wealth and abundance, for the first time in 3000 years. There was no peace for them even in the desert. You know they wandered the deserts for 40 years with the Prophet Moses (pbuh). They knew no peace. Other tribes constantly attacked them. They were constantly slaughtered. They were also butchered in Hitler’s time, as you know. They never knew peace. But they will live lives of wealth, abundance and peace for the very first time in the age of Mashiach, in other words of Shiloh, the King Messiah, Muhammad Mahdi. I can say that with confidence. I am as certain of it as I am of my own name.

When Allah shows us Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), it will delight us to see the close physical resemblance. In other words, we will encounter a miracle from Allah. A truly astounding thing. It will be something truly historic, insha’Allah.

2011-10-26 21:49:05

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