PRESENTER: We’re gonna get right to the conversation today. Mr. Oktar is calling in all the way from Istanbul, Turkey. He’s born in February 1956. … He is a prominent advocate of Islamic creationism in the creation-evolution debate. And more particularly, he supports old-earth creationism. He is against (atheist) Zionism and freemasonry. And sees them as very relevant movements. He denounces anti-Semitism and terrorism, which he says are products of Darwinism. Oktar had defended his views by litigation. He is responsible of blocking of numerous high profile websites in Turkey.
Mr. Oktar, welcome to the show, sir.
ADNAN OKTAR: Thank you very much. We welcome you also.
PRESENTER: OK, thank you so much. I wanted to give Mr. Oktar an opportunity to explain the listeners where his ideas come from, who he is and what he is trying to accomplish.
ADNAN OKTAR: Being a Muslim, I, of course, live to earn Allah’s consent, His pleasure. This is my objective. Yet I want [all the people] in the world to become brothers, and Jews, Christians, Muslims to live together as brothers and friends. Especially I do not want any tension to appear between Jews and Muslims. This also applies to Christians and Muslims. I want [all the people] in the world to live in bliss and brotherhood.
PRESENTER: Mr. Oktar, how can that happen, when in my opinion, Palestinians and these Muslim terrorists continue to attack the Jewish settlements?
ADNAN OKTAR: There is no cruelty in Islam. It is unlawful to attack women, innocent people. When we consider people who are told to be terrorists, we see that they are people who have undergone Darwinist, materialist education in UK, Europe, America. Consequently there is not a concept of cruelty in the Qur’an; there is only peace and brotherhood. This is also the same in the Torah and the Gospels. Torah also advocates love, peace and brotherhood. The Gospels also advocates brotherhood. Terror has by no means any place in all the three religions. Those who advocate terror are the ones who have undergone Darwinist education.
PRESENTER: Has the terrorists, has radical Islam hijacked the Muslim religion and using that as an excuse to attack the West?
ADNAN OKTAR: Those who direct them are freemasons. World freemasonry directs it. Everywhere in the world, freemasonry directs members of various religions and people of different opinions. In Turkey there is the alleged Ergenekon terror organization, for instance. It is also under the sway of freemasonry. There is freemasonry underneath all sorts of terrorist movements. While selecting them they are selected among Darwinist, materialist people. Some are called Muslims, some are called Christians or Jews. Yet, these are all the people rooted in atheist thinking, Darwinist mentality. These people have no love for human beings.
PRESENTER: How does he see the future in Middle East? Will the United States? Let me simplify this question. How does Mr. Adnan Oktar see the United States in Iraq, in Afghanistan? Does he see that as a positive thing or a negative issue?
ADNAN OKTAR: Our Prophet (saas) told that in the End Times Iraq and Afghanistan would be invaded. These are the portents of Hazrat Mahdi’s (as) appearance. Nothing have happened outside All-Mighty Allah’s order. There is goodness and wisdom in all of them. The awaited Mahdi (as) will direct people to brotherhood, peace and love. Hazrat Mahdi (as) also appeared. Hadith provides a detailed account of the invasion of Afghanistan, elimination of Iraq’s currency, the restructuring of Iraq following its division into three and even the disappearance of the Iraqi army before Hazrat Mahdi’s (as) appearance. These are destined to be so; they are the portents of Hazrat Mahdi’s (as) coming and they all have all taken place.
PRESENTER: Mr. Oktar is a Turkish writer in our first Middle East correspondent on KBYR. Thank you very much for calling us today. We really appreciate Mr Oktar. Thank you for your work over there.