Highlights from Adnan Oktar's interview dated 7 September 2010

7.09.2010 Gaziantep Olay TV
There is no devastating, crushing activity against Darwinism anywhere in the world apart from us.
It is the world’s number 1 problem. There is no movement opposed to religion anywhere in the world that is so wide-ranging and so destructive, that destroys people’s joy and causes them to be suspicious of one another and that causes atheism to lay down its roots.. Has any other movement led to the deaths of 350 million people? Let them say if there was one. But we have eliminated that worst ever movement. Allah made us His instrument. He bestowed that upon us, insha’Allah. The aftershocks are still persisting.

The main philosophy of the alleged organization Ergenekon is Darwinism and materialism. It is one result of the devastation wreaked in Turkey by Darwinism. And that is why they are so bloodthirsty. The alleged organization Ergenekon began right back in Darwin’s time. And it has persisted ever since. It was born in that time and has died (intellectually) in this.

We must live by the love-filled, passionate and beautiful life of the Messenger of Allah (saas). We will be the most developed country in Europe. Democracy will be at the heart of that. Go to China and see what happens when there is no democracy. They have driven the whole of China crazy. They have lost all their joy, as if they were soulless. It was the same in Russia. They did not know how to laugh. They have only just learned now. It was like they had just come out of the freezer, but now their faces have begun to light up with smile.
     People’s brains in Europe have become like those of the Chinese. They got frozen. There is no maternal love, or love of one’s neighbors or brothers. But we will restore love of one’s neighbor.
    (Regarding reports of challenges by Ahmadinejad) The Iranians will not go to war with Israel. There will be no great battle like Armageddon in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Israel will not be destroyed. Faith will come. Jerusalem will be cleansed and renewed. Jerusalem will be like paradise. Ahmadinejad is a very good person. He is an honest man. They make him uneasy, and he responds. There is no need for that, no atom bomb will be used against Israel. The graves of all the prophets are there. We will break the arm of anyone launching nuclear weapons against Iran or Israel. Hazrat Khidr (as) is here one day, there the next. We are but Hazrat Khidr's humble students in absentia.

   Bediuzzaman says that Islam will rule the whole world. What does that mean? It means, the movement of the Mahdi. He says the whole world will be Muslim with the return of the Prophet Jesus (as) and the system of the Mahdi. This will happen. Bediuzzaman speaks of love, union and brotherhood. What does all Muslims uniting together mean? Unity. Muslims will have one spiritual leader. Right? Solidarity. This means that the students of Nur will not be split into different groups and stop not speaking to each other. They will love one another. I love them all. Bediuzzaman talks about solidarity. They must be in touch with and linked to one another. And they must love other followers as well. I love them all. I am their servant. But if one does something out of order, such as mocking Islam, then I will respond accordingly.
   Striking at religion out of fear from bigotry would not be a solution. The way to have protection from fanaticism lies in following the movement of the Mahdi. The movement of the Mahdi means genuine freedom, democracy, love and modernity. Since you want love, freedom, modernity and democracy, then be a subject to the Mahdi. You will then realize you have never known anything about freedom, love or happiness before. Since you are so afraid of backwardness, the answer is to cling to the spirit of the Qur’an. It is not opposing or adopting a different attitude to certain provisions of religion. Anyone afraid of fanaticism should embrace the warmth of the system of the Mahdi. Fanaticism and backwardness is a terrible thing for the whole world. There are more than 100 million evangelicals, and they say there will blood up to the horse’s mane. That is fanaticism for you. That is what you should be afraid of. Communists want a red sea of blood and the dictatorship of the proletariat. What does that mean? It means torture, imprisonment, and repression. But the system of the Mahdi will shed no blood. Not a drop of blood will be shed, and that is Allah’s promise.
   Dominion in the time of the Prophet Solomon (as) was limited to a small region. He influenced many parts of the world through his military force, but the state was very small. It consisted of Palestine, Egypt including part of Israel, and as far as Jordan. But in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as) Islam will rule the whole world up until the ends of the Earth.

   They say that a woman must stay at home. “What if she looks out of the window and finds a friend that way; that is why the windows should not be looking towards the market places” they say. Not trusting women and regarding them as a potential threat is the mindset of the hypocrite. But if you ask, they will say, “I am protecting them.” You are a human being and so is she. Let her put you in a room and prevent you to look out at the market places. In the Qur'an the emphasis is greatly to protect women. But the system of the bigot is all about protecting men.

62/5- The metaphor of those who were charged with the Torah but then have not upheld it, is that of a donkey loaded with weighty tomes. How evil is the metaphor of those who deny Allah’s Signs! Allah does not guide wrongdoing people.

There indeed are some scholars with a lot of knowledge of the verses. They have learned the Qur’an and the hadiths off by heart, but there is nothing about them that can be instrumental in salvation, no love, and no affection. They have no respect for the Qur’an. They are obviously weak in faith. There are professors in chairs of Qur’anic studies in Russia, they know the Qur’an by heart but are atheist. Reading the Qur’an is not, as people imagine, a direct path to salvation. You need signs leading to faith, miracles of the Qur’an that will cause people to love Allah, the kind of language that will show people the true miracles of our Prophet (saas). Otherwise, the Qur’an can lead some people into depravity, it would not be as they expect it to be.  There is a verse about it, Allah reveals the following" What has been sent down to you from your Lord increases many of them in insolence and unbelief " It can be instrumental in their denial. That is why one needs a rational, warm way of talking about things, one based on signs leading to faith.

    (Regarding Ahmet Altan’s piece) Ahmet Altan is candid, but mistaken. We fear Allah, but fear of Allah bestows joy and depth. It is not terrifying for a child to fear Allah, but a source of joy. Allah’s wrath is directed against the vile, the hypocrites. Not towards believers. He speaks of them being given complete peace “on that day.” Would it make us happy for Allah not to oppress the oppressors, the hypocrites?  Allah will not do that. That is what the Muslim hopes for. Allah exists and so does His Morality, and He takes revenge on the cruel. Allah is omniscient. It is Allah Who creates Ahmet Altan’s feelings of affection and compassion, it is Allah Who installs these feelings in his heart. It is Allah Who caused him to write that piece, word for word. And it is wrong for the "The Risale report“ website to take this article word for word without commenting on it. It would have been better for it to have been interpreted when published. Children and adults, all fear the wrath of Allah, but they have trust in Allah as they do not oppress anyone and help one another. We do good with all our might, but we still fear going to hell. But that inflicts no suffering on us. With the fear of Allah, we are able to live with greater depth. That gives us happiness. We understand life better, love more deeply, we become filled with love, and are more joyful. We enjoy the peace bestowed by that justice. We know that Allah will take revenge and that gives us happiness. For example, a man takes a child off and kills him. If Allah does nothing about it, that will make another young person unhappy. But knowing that the person will be suitably rewarded makes the child happy. Hell is where Allah takes revenge. Hypocrites are the lowest creatures in the world. Do you expect Allah to let these curs into paradise? Seeing them being punished in hell will make us happy. Allah has created hell for us to be happy about this. Hell is where Allah takes revenge, but it brings joy to believers. Fear of Allah increases our feelings of affection and protection. Protection is a mixture of love, sympathy and affection. It is love that fully satisfies the soul. A person may say he has love, but he is lying. Something happens to her face. “My love is finished” he says. It is not your love, it is your desire that is finished. Love comes from fear of Allah. Ahmet Altan is thinking in very narrow terms. The world he longs for exists within the system of the Mahdi. One can only have vigorous mental faculties, clarity, and sharp vision with the movement of the Mahdi.
In addition, you cannot do this in separate units. Why has the Islamic world been in a wretched state for the last 100 years? Allah imparts glad tidings of Hazrat Mahdi (as) in the Torah, the Gospels, the Psalms and the Qur’an, without giving his name. 
The best path at the moment is to abide by the schools, to follow the imam of one of the schools. Otherwise, one will act on one’s own inventions and go astray. But when Hazrat Mahdi (as) appears one must follow him. He will implement the religion exactly as it was in our Prophet’s time.

A giant star throwing off meteors, Nemesis is drawing near. Let them say what this is preparatory to. They shout about how nobody can know what is secret, what is in the future. They are in a panic. That is because the Day of Reckoning is spoiling things for them. Of course secret things of the future may not be known, there is a verse about that. But Allah also says, " Yet He chooses from His Prophets whom He will and gives them knowledge of events to come according to His will." Why do they not also mention that? There are several verses to the effect that Allah imparts secret knowledge. Why do they not talk about them? The Day of Reckoning will be, Allah knows the truth, in [Hijri] 1545.

    A letter of our older brother Husrev Altinbasak says: "...Turk and Arab, two true brother nations, InshaAllah will unite in the near future . And through that union the seeds of mischief, those awful enemies have thrown among the Muslims will be thrown back to their own faces. The four hundred million Muslims, will come to lead the whole humanity with the Islamic way of living and will ensure peace and welfare, insha'Allah." A humble student of Risale-i Nur HUSREV (Rays, s. 592)
They will return to living by Islam and will assume the leadership of all, these are the glad tidings of the system of the Mahdi. This is a part of the signs leading to faith and Islamic Union is the greatest religious obligation.
Our brothers from East Turkestan are even terrified to write to me. That is because the secret demolitions of the Chinese administration are still going on. The penalty for talking to Turkey is death. If they sincerely want the continuity of the Chinese state, they should give freedom to the people. I would not want the Chinese state to collapse either, that would be a pity. But they must let the Uighur Turks be. They must lift their oppression and persecution. China must be like Europe. We cannot phone them in East Turkestan. We must be able to call East Turkestan freely and come and go. They must trust Muslims, there is no need for this despotism.

Allah will put on a magnificent display on the Day of Reckoning, and the people of the graves will also see it. Believers will watch it in joy and amazement. That is because there is no fear for the believers on that day. Bediuzzaman says they will watch events in the same state of mind as someone looking out from a warm house at a snowy, stormy day. He says believers will watch it all from under protection. Muslims will encounter the Day of Reckoning suddenly, but in a state of readiness.

16/58- When one of them is given the good news of a baby girl, his face darkens and he is furious.

16/59- He hides away from people because of the evil of the good news he has been given. Should he keep her ignominiously or bury her in the earth? What an evil judgement they make!

Deniers and hypocrites regard women as potentially unchaste and even- may Allah forbid-dangerous. But women are very holy entities. They are lovely manifestations of Allah. They are the world’s most exciting adornment. They are troves of affection.  They are the finest teachers that teach warmth, love and friendship to the whole world. These holy beings will achieve complete security in the age of the system of the Mahdi.

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Messengers before you were also mocked, but those who jeered were engulfed by what they mocked. (Surat al-An’am, 10)
lest anyone should say, ‘Alas for me for neglecting what Allah was due,and being one of the scoffers!’ (Surat az-Zumar, 56)

It has been sent down to you in the Book that when you hear Allah’s Signs being rejected and mocked at by people, you must not sit with them till they start talking of other things. If you do you are just the same as them. Allah will gather all the hypocrites and unbelievers into hell. (Surat an-Nisa’, 140)
One must not listen to those who mock Allah and the Qur’an. Allah’s command is explicit.

They sit and laugh at them, that is a sin. That is clearly set out in the Qur’an.

Allah says, “do not sit with them.” Neither can one sit in front of the television and listen as someone mocks religion, may Allah forbid, or else mocks Islam in the name of serving Islam. One must not listen until they start talking properly.

When they declared, ‘Why! Joseph and his brother are dearer to our father than we are although we constitute a powerful group. Our father is clearly making a mistake. (Surah Yusuf, 8)

Under normal circumstance the Prophet Joseph’s (as) brothers were believers.

But Allah is setting the position out in the Qur’an in order to send a message to the hypocrites.

There is a message for the hypocrites here. In the figurative sense, if we consider that aspect regarding Hazrat Mahdi (as) and the Prophet Jesus (as), they are jealous of both.

They are uncomfortable with their power and dominion. That is why they say they have been and gone, or will come in 1000 or 570 years’ time. A Muslim would want to see them at once. One will not tell someone that one loves very much, “see you in a thousand years, then.” He would want very much to see them instantly and beg and pray Allah for that. Osman Unlu, Cubbeli Ahmet, and people like them are speaking out of ignorance. But the others are plain dishonest.

… although we constitute a powerful group: Deniers and hypocrites are in constant contact with one another. They represent the great majority, and they rely on that strength and become very aggressive. The hypocrites will constitute a huge mass of people against Hazrat Mahdi (as). They will engage in intense activity in order to stop the work of Hazrat Mahdi (as) and Islamic Union.

our father is clearly making a mistake: They will accuse Hazrat Mahdi (as) of being in error, and also his followers.

Kill Joseph or expel him to some land so that your father will look to you alone and then you can be people who do right.’ (Surah Yusuf, 9)

They directly plan murder. For example, if you put someone in prison, alongside people perfectly well disposed to commit murder, then they can kill that person at the slightest provocation. Or you take someone in any country, and put him alongside mental patients who have previously killed. These are indirect ways of killing. Saying I did not do it, he did is an excuse. For instance if you abandon a young child by the E-5 highway he will crawl off. The child would have no idea, he will cross to the other side. But a car will fail to see him and run over him. If you ask them, they will say they dropped him off to get a bit of air. But their real intention was to kill him. But they would say that they did no such thing. That is one way of avoiding the pangs of conscience and feelings of guilt. We can see that Hazrat Mahdi (as) will be subjected to the same sort of thing.
then you can be people who do right: And the hypocrites will then claim to be Muslims. They will claim to be good, perfect Muslims. They are both predisposed to kill and also totally immoral, but will also claim to be immaculate Muslims.

That night they came back to their father in tears, (Surah Yusuf, 16)

One of the distinguishing features of hypocrites is that they shed plenty of false tears. Shedding tears is a game for them. They would say they are afraid and start crying, they would say they are ashamed and start crying, they would cry to appear honorable, to lie, to obtain money or to appear among the people of taqwa(fear from and obedience to Allah) . Hypocrites and deniers use crying as a trick. I consider those who are genuine free of these of course.

saying, ‘Father, we went out to run a race and left Joseph together with our things and then a wolf appeared and ate him up but you are never going to believe us now, not even though we really tell the truth.’ (Surah Yusuf, 17)
This means that deniers and hypocrites are not so calm as they might seem. One might think that atheist masons or atheist Zionist would take direct action towards Hazrat Mahdi (as), but we see that in fact the hypocrites are after wide-ranging action and seek to kill or halt Hazrat Mahdi (as).
They then produced his shirt with false blood on it. He said, ‘It is merely that your lower selves have suggested something to you which you did; but beauty lies in showing steadfastness. It is Allah alone who is my Help in face of the event that you describe.’ (Surah Yusuf, 18)

This means that false evidence will be manufactured in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). False legal evidence will be produced.

It is merely that your lower serves have suggested something to you which you did:

We understand that Muslims bring gentle criticism to such things. There is a criticism using calm language.
beauty lies in showing steadfastness: Hazrat Mahdi (as) and his followers will both be steadfast.
Bediuzzaman says that Hazrat Mahdi’s (as) attributes are determination, courage and fortitude.

It is Allah alone who is my Help in face of the event that you describe: They will invent lies against Hazrat Mahdi (as). False accusations. And one needs to assume the described reaction in the face of such slanders.

7/142- We set aside thirty nights for Moses and then completed them with ten, so the appointed time of his Lord was forty nights in all.

This refers to Hazrat Mahdi’s (as) struggle which will last 40 years.


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