Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Interview on Kanal Avrupa and Çay TV dated 21 November 2010
ADNAN OKTAR: "You will fight the Jews and slay them. So that even stones will say, 'O Muslim, a Jew is hiding behind me, come and slay him." That is in Bukhari, in Manahim, Muslim and Tirmidhi. "You will fight the Jews and slay them." If a Jewish person is an atheist and if he attacks Muslims and sheds blood, if he kills children and other people, then you are perfectly justified in defending yourself. In this hadith our Prophet (saas) is talking about legitimate self-defense, but it would be a sin to go and kill an innocent Jew. "So that even stones will say, 'O Muslim, a Jew is hiding behind me, come and slay him'." Now let us think of a child 3 or 4 years old. He is behind a stone, and we hear the stone say, "O Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." That means you are hallucinating. Shaytan is speaking to you. Killing children, killing innocent people, killing women is not acceptable. Right? I mean you can only protect yourself in legitimate self-defense, or in terms of retaliation, as a retaliation for someone else. Apart from that, if a Muslim kills someone intentionally and deliberately, and if the family demands that he be punished, then the idea of a life for a life does exist in Islamic law. But apart from that, killing is not acceptable. Therefore, if we see a Jewish child hiding behind a stone and a voice comes from that stone, we would say, "I must be hallucinating." We would not obey that voice. If a psychopath turns up one day and says; "stones and bits of wood spoke to me, so I went off and killed Jews," what are we to say to that? Right? If he kills 10 Jewish children, may Allah forbid. So?. When we asked; "Where did you get that idea from, why did you do it?" If he says "the stone spoke to me that is why I did so," we would realize that he is crazy. And that person would thus be committing murder, he would be an assassin. I mean he thus had literally committed murder, he became a persecutor and his reward for that would be hell. It is meaningless to afflict Muslims with such a twisted logic. We must have a good knowledge of the meaning of the hadith. Our Prophet (saas) is referring to communications in the End Times. For example, he says that "the heels of people's shoes will speak." Heels are made of leather or wood, aren't they? He is referring to some technical device concealed there. We have seen that in recent days. "A telephone has been made for those who often forget their phones." A phone in the heel of a shoe. The telephone rings, you take your shoe off and talk into the heel. Our Prophet (saas) says, "Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will not appear and the Day of Reckoning will not come until a person speaks with his shoe." That is a feature of the times of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). Rasulullah (saas) is also noting that intelligence gathering will grow in that sense. There will be listening devices in rocks and stones and wood and everywhere. There will be micro cameras and intelligence devices. Thus, secret cameras are being installed among rocks out in open land against the PKK, to monitor the PKK's movements. Operations are carried out using information obtained from rocks. Or else they are hidden in trees, inside a tree. Secret cameras are secretly buried inside trees and intelligence gathered in that way. This refers to a system that will be developed in defensive war. Our Prophet (saas) described how advanced technology will be used in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). Otherwise, killing the innocent is a sin. No Jew was ever killed like that in the time of our Prophet (saas). No Christian was ever killed. Our Prophet (saas) personally took his turban off and spread it on the ground, didn't he? The People of the Book sat on it; our Prophet (saas) paid tribute to them and showed them respect. Muslims in the time of our Prophet (saas) migrated to Christians and entrusted their lives to them. They became brothers with them, they went to dine with them and shared their food, and they married Christian women. If a stone told a man to kill his wife, would he do it? There are some mentally ill people who say, "I heard a voice telling me to kill my child, so I did." Or "it told me to kill my wife, so I killed her." That is a mental illness. No such thing is acceptable. A Muslim would always be loving and compassionate towards the innocent, insha'Allah.
ALTUĞ BERKER:I am reading verse concerning what you have just said Master. Verse 5 from Surah 5; "Today all good things have been made lawful for you. And the food of those given the Book is also lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. So are chaste women from among the believers and chaste women of those given the Book before you, once you have given them their dowries in marriage, not in fornication or taking them as lovers."
ADNAN OKTAR:Look, one can marry a Christian woman, or a Jewish woman. What are you saying there; "a stone will tell me and I will kill them." Then you marry a woman one day, and the next a voice from a stone tells you to "kill her." So you go and kill your wife. That is the action of a psychopath, isn't it? Why get married in the first place then? What does marriage mean? It means there is love, friendship and sisterhood, doesn't it? She becomes the mother of your children. Be reasonable! You sleep in the same bed, eat and drink in the same place, she becomes your lover. Be reasonable! Even a child can understand that. That is set out in the verse of the Qur'an we have read. Look, you eat their food and share the same environment. Anyone with ears to hear will understand what I have said. There is nothing further I can say to those who still fail to understand.